Doomsday Clock #12 *Spoilers Inside*


Wow
What a book
This is Geoff Johns at his peak. Only he could take Watchmen and make a book that not only adds to that world and its characters, but also explain the entire DC timeline and metaverse.

Random Thoughts:

  1. Batman had a different costume. Kinda weird.
  2. I teared up when the Legion and JSA came back!
  3. Marvel/DC crossover in 2030? :joy:
  4. So happy the Kents are back!
  5. Loved Reggie and Manhattan’s endings
  6. First official mention of 5G… interesting
  7. Crisis in 2020 to feature the old gods
  8. Mime and Marrionete are still in the DCU?
  9. Jon’s kid is named Clark :sob:
  10. New 52 universe is still alive?! Apparently Rebirth isn’t the same universe. Maybe it branched away in Rebirth
    I’m still not sure how this book fits in with current continuity, but I loved it nonetheless. The DCU feels full again.
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3…I think that’s Johns wishful feelings…mine too…

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I’m thinking what it’s saying is Manhattan recreated the new 52 or (stupid collared universe) as a seperate space like he did when he brought back the rest of DC multiverse as earth 52 in his last big blue whoosh before he disappeared to make a baby Clark. Why does this kinda feal like a threat that didio could bring back new 52 at any time he wanted. :grimacing:

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8…it does seem to be that they were left on DCU Earth and Jon Jr. is on the resurrected Watchmen Earth.

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10…It’s funny. All through the Five Years of New52 I always thought that It would one day be established that there was a flip side Where there would be another 52 Multiverse that would include our Pre-Flashpoint DCU. Now we have that and more.
An Earth where everything has only progressed as far as 1985?
So that means Jason is still Robin.
Barry and Iris are on a perpetual 2nd Honeymoon in the 30th Century
Hal is still out of the Green Lantern Corps and John Stewart is his replacement.
Clark Kent is a TV reporter for WGBS
what other stuff was going on prior to Crisis?

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Justice League Detroit!

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Please, dont even joke about The New 52 coming back :joy:

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I have a question or two…it states that the lightning bolt that struck Barry created the Speed Force. Has that been stated lately in the Flash comic? I get a little twisted with all these new forces but hasn’t it been stated the speed force has been around for centuries?

That was something that Johns established in the Flash Rebirth miniseries in 2009. Barry’s accident was the formation of the speed Force and he generates it whenever he runs which pushes the Speed Force both backward and forward in time.

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Thanks…I have better memories of the speed force from back in the Wally/Impulse/max Mercury era than today’s comics…probably because I have read them 3 times.

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Yeah… As you might be able to tell from many of my posts, I’m a Wally West guy myself and I preferred to think of the Speed Force as being this energy field of perpetual motion that exists on it’s own.
The idea that Barry is the sole generator always felt to me like it was tptb were trying to promote Barry Allen as the Supreme Speedster in all of DC’s history and everyone that came before him and after him were all just fill-ins.

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I’m pretty sure that’s accepted canon.

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I started reading the flash in the early 70’s and I am a huge Barry fan. I accepted his death and that Wally became the Flash after COIE…I loved his time as The Flash.

Last question…which is canon now…that Barry getting hit with the lightning caused the multiverse or was it Krona’s machine blowing up…

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Well I respect Barry. (Don’t forget, Wally is Barry’s biggest fan bar-none!) And I was happy that they brought Barry back. In fact I’ve said many times that Mark Waid and Brian Augustyn were laying down the foundations for Barry’s return even as they were building Wally up as good a Flash as Barry ever was.
I spent more time during the New52 era collecting Barry’s original run than I did reading the comics that were coming out Between Flashpoint and Rebirth. (I think I read them once when they came out and then filed them away as I hunted Pre-Crisis issues)

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I think the multiverse happened on it’s own due to Krona’s screw ups. Barry’s accident just created the Speed Force. Although, now that there are multiple Barry’s across the multiverse Earth 0 Earth 1985 Earth 52 etc…I wonder which Barry created the Speed Force…

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I don’t let continuity bother me too much, but sometimes I am not sure where we are at with it.

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I was sceptical when this series was announced, but dang was it good. I got super emotional when the JSA showed up.

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One thing that made me laugh…how long have we been waiting for that Superman punch to Manhattan?
It never happens…cough…Superman Returns…cough.

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This is why I read comics
I teared up more than once, JSA, Jon and Martha, Superman as the focus point of a continually rejuvenating multiverse and hope in it
Now I want to read 5G books set in 2026, and New 52 books, and Earth 1985
Long live the multiverse

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