Is Jack Ryder Unique?

Steve Ditko’s The Creeper is the alter ego of Jack Ryder, a bombastic sensationalist TV journalist. These days, you’re far more likely to see Ryder show up in a comic or video than The Creeper himself.

My question today is: is this phenomenon unique? Are there any other characters whose civilian identities have eclipsed their super-egos? Or is Ryder the sole claimant?

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That’s a really good question. I have seen a lot of appearances of Jack, but not the Creeper. Some second-string superheroes often get a similar treatment. Dr. Kitty Faulkner is often just a scientist and not Rampage. Other than that, I think he is pretty unique. Though I would love to see some more creeper in the comics and here on DC Universe.

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I think the Creeper is a really cool/unique character and I wish he got more traction.

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Ted Grant was pretty well known as the heavy weight champ.
Bruce Wayne is a world wide recognized billionaire.
Clark Kent was a high profile newscaster in the 70’s.
Mari McCabe is a well known Fashion model.

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I think the question is more on a meta level: How often do you see Bruce Wayne but not Batman in a story, or Clark Kent but not Superman?

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You’re right: here’s some evidence

  • He doesn’t appear as the Creeper in this series.
  • In Young Justice: Outsiders he doesn’t appear as the Creeper.
  • Other than this “implied appearance” he doesn’t actually do anything.

Just for fun: cuz we’re talkin’ creeper:

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I’m probably off with Kent.
Wayne is recognized everywhere and some people believe Batman is a myth.

@tuxnut Again, how often do you see Bruce Wayne in a series that Batman doesn’t appear in? What is the scale of Batman appearances to Bruce Wayne appearances? Like say Bruce’s mentioned once in say, Blue Beetle. That’s not what we mean. If Bruce was a reoccurring character in Blue Beetle but he was never Batman, that would apply here.

I would give the closest approximation to be Jason Blood. Mostly because much like the Creeper, it is a jekle/Hyde situation.

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@Adamantine
Whenever Wayne appears in ANY comic book he is instantly recognized.

The point is this: Imagine if Bruce Wayne and Batman were two different people. There are not many comic books in which Bruce Wayne appears but not Batman. There are more where Batman appears but not Bruce Wayne, and in most of the ones that feature both, the reader cares more about what Batman is doing than what Bruce Wayne is doing. In our real world that we actually live in, Batman is better known and used more often. Therefore, he doesn’t qualify.

Whereas Jack Ryder is used by writers in stories more frequently in his civilian identity than he is as the Creeper. You’re more likely to see just Jack Ryder, loudmouthed talk show host, than you are to see the Creeper, cackling crazy yellow-skinned superhero. The question is if any other characters are like that.

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BatJamags is right. I’m not asking about characters who are more recognizable in FICTION as their alter egos, but those whose alter egos are more present in the COMICS than their super-persona.

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My point is answering to this question. I said Wayne because not everyone believes there is a Batman. Billionaires are high profile. Bruce Wayne is high profile. Everyone knew who Howard Hughes was. Everyone knew Trump as a billionaire years before he became a celebrity.

I totally read this a different way.
I see the point now.

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I might say Jeremiah Arkham is more present in his civilian identity than as Black Mask. But he hasn’t even been Black Mask for a while.

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Jason Blood comes close, but I think you’re just as likely to see him independent of Etrigan as vice versa. He lies right on the borderline.

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Hmm. I think what makes Jack Ryder unique is that the writer has the choice of using one alter ego, or both, to serve their story. The only other character like that who comes immediately to mind is Jason Blood. After all, if Clark Kent or Bruce Wayne appear without their other selves, there’s kind of wink to the whole thing. Ryder and Blood can function without their alter egos.

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Another Jack reference with no Creeper tie-in, but that’s kind of normal for Smallville Season 11

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I feel like Kate Spencer is referenced more than manhunter all the time. That’s just me.

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You know what? That’s a good point. Kate appears a lot more as a lawyer than as a vigilante since her series ended.

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