I mean, I saw him get shot in the head and come out the other side fine and dandy (albeit with an annoying new personality). My imagination can go far to allow him to live.
Seriously, if you think about it, not having Dick Grayson is a bad decision for multiple reasons. 1, if they want an audience that is going to watch and stick around, you gotta give them what they like, and everyone knows that Dick has quite the fan base. It could also introduce more people to Nightwing, which could lead to comics, hopefully other Robins… (I’m passionate about my Robins). What about Barbara? Or Starfire? Again, more opportunities for future projects and a bunch of stories that us fans want, and a way to introduce new people into comics. I could go on and on but, I think you get where this goes. Dick Grayson could have been a great character to bring in. Maybe they’ll pull a “oh we thought he died but we were wroooong?” Its comics, death is a complex ruleset.
Just want to point out that while Zack Snyder envisioned Grayson as the dead Robin, there is literally no reason they have to stay with that vision. Unless they’re releasing an Ayer-cut of SS and that info is vital to the story, they havent yet conveyed that idea to the audience in any story.
I also think ZS knows Dick Grayson is the most well known Robin and his death would have more impact than if it were Jason Todd. People are familiar with Robin, not necessarily the long comic book lore of the mantle.
Happy to see Leto get another shot and add to this version. It’s clear now that the studio chopped up a lot of his part in suicide Squad. I’m pretty stoked to see this 4 hour epic on HBOMAX.
I’m happy for those who liked his Joker, but I’d say the voice of my favorite Joker perfectly sums up my feelings on this.
I’m surprised with this move. I think Jared will do a great Joker under Zack Snyder’s direction!
Now Deathstroke is gonna be in this??? https://collider.com/justice-league-snyder-cut-joe-manganiello-deathstroke/
I’m back at Joker killing Dick. Deathstroke is a Robin villain. Having him in this… Such a good villain, but he can’t be the focus of this and if there’s gonna be no Robin no Titans… I’m just… Help. I have no idea what this going to be now. Is this gonna be the first season of a TV show but with movie stars?
I’m still excited, I’m just so confused.
Yeah I saw that. @Zombedy makes a great point, and I’d love for them to go down that route. Im feeling now though that is just gonna be a big squished down version of Snyder’s whole grand plan for his universe since this isn’t really going to affect the films very much. Maybe they’re reference some things for is super fans, but it seems they’re moving away from a strictly shared universe. And so that makes me think Snyder will stick with his original vision of a dead Dick Grayson.
However, this also just makes me really concerned that they’re putting way too much into this. How are they going to have such fantastic villains like Joker, Deathstroke and DARKSEID, all on one miniseries? I’m excited to see them all, but I really hope it’s not just little cameos because Deathstroke and Joker are too good for that.
I’m an optimist at heart, so I’m gonna hope this is all leading to some awesome reveal that is even more amazing content, I just can’t figure it out. But I guess that’s a good thing! It’s nice to be surprised by things when you watch it the first time instead of just guessing everything that happens months before we’ve seen it.
Considering it is reportedly a one-week shoot, they can’t be making massive extensions to the story. Joker probably gets a couple scenes, and maybe a couple instances of him lurking around the corner at the end of someone else’s scene. For Slade, they have existing footage and dialogue with Deathstroke. It was intended to pave the way for him as a villian in an Affleck bat film, so that footage must open things up for more scenes with him. With his face hidden as Deathstroke, they don’t even require Joe M. on set to shoot more action scenes with him. Unless the new Slade material all takes place after the post-credits yacht scene, it’d still need to somehow fit in with the existing film’s plot, and the plot we’re familar with has no need for the Joker or Deathstroke character. They can do a bit with Darkseid, since he seems to be CGI, but who is he going to interact with? The original film would have only used him briefly. Possibly the final fight could suddenly be both Steppenwolf and Darkseid instead of only Steppenwolf, but I would guess that’s more complex than they have time to do.
You know what, I’ll give it a shot. My problem with Suicide squad was it was like a bunch of music videos ran back to back. I really didn’t have a problem with any of the characters (I thought Crocs make up could have been better I suppose). So seeing Leto’s Joker actually act out part of a movie night go along way.
It certainly seems like they don’t give Dick the spotlight he deserves! We all want to see him
As far as I can tell, the Nightwing movie is still in development. Chris McKay is directing.
I believe Jared Leto got caught up in trying to play a modern take of a psychotic mob boss; he lost the core of the character. I believe Leto has the potential to play an excellent Joker; they need to go back to the roots of who the Joker is and then bring the nuance.
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This does mean the long, desaturated Zack Snyder DCEU nightmare is in its twilight though, right?
Na, haters lost this one…
I’m not a hater. I just like DC comics and I like good movies, I’d like the two to meet more often.
Snyder’s MOS and BVS and Ayers’ SS were an order of magnitude worse than Batman & Robin and Steel; at least the directors of those never insulted their critics. There’s no reason to watch those films. They’re bad movies and bad DC adaptations.