Hey howdy! glad to have you join in! I would have liked to have seen more of the underground situation flesh out more as well. The more I think about it, I like the idea of the conclusion with the court being spread out more. It would have been cool to have him fail to bring them down around the first act, then have Bat’s get distracted with other villains with the court being behind it all, having not yet figured out Bat’s true identity. Then have the big showdown at Wayne Manor once his identity was revealed in a epic fashion. By the way, next week we will be reading the second half of the story!
Ok thats a great point! Gosh, I was so into the story and loving Talon that I didn’t even think about how he could possibly be on his fourth Robin! That is a bit of a speed bump and now I can’t think about it!
I agree with everything you said! Your arc suggestions sound amazing. Wish they’d gone with that. Definitely can’t wait for next week to see what happens next!
Thanks. yeah I had never thought about it until y’all mentioned it. One of the great things about the book clubs is getting to dissect the comics. The folks here really know there stuff as well. I’ve learned a bunch from AlexanderKnox, BatJamags, & Jay_Kay. I actually love when folks rip into a story, even if its one I like. It’s always fun to rip on stuff you love. It’s like Batman has his own ScreenRant Pitch meeting channel. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the second half!
I like the story okay. The fact that this is where Bats is in his career and they still take him by surprise makes the Owls even more of a threat. I do think it would have been cool if their legend has ever been mentioned before, though.
I love the artwork. Capullo is just amazing and fun to look at. You can definitely see McFarlane’s influence on some pages, but that’s a good thing.
Finished it up this morning and I have to say, I do think this story definitely holds up and I feel it definitely earns it’s modern classic status.
While I get some of the criticisms, like Bruce’s stubbornness, some of the sillier gadgets, and really the ham-fisted way they revealed that Dick was being groomed to be a Talon, none of it for me was bad enough to say that the story itself is bad, if that makes sense.
I really liked Bruce’s story here. I guess you can say I tend to like Bruce when he is a bit flawed, and can be blinded by his trauma and ego in ways that can make him screw up – but what makes those stories great isn’t just the fall, but as the second part of this will show, it’s seeing him wise up, pick himself up, and get back in the fight better than ever.
@ralphsix, to be clear, when I talk about the McFarlane influence, I don’t mean it as a bad thing. What I mean is that when I look at his artwork from even later on in this arc and especially now in books like Last Knight on Earth and the previews for Death Metal, he feels like he has his own style. It’s been pretty cool to see him evolve and grow as an artist.
Speaking of that, one of my favorite parts of this book artwise is how Capullo draws the maze and Batman’s fight and escape out of it. The way he draws the scale and the gnarliness of all the characters, bouncing back and forth between reality and Bruce’s addled headspace was so good.
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There are a lot of Batman stories, this one is very unique to me and will stand out in my memory. It comes across as more horror than detective story. I read All Star Western which directly ties into this so it was fun seeing how the old West Gotham ties to the modern. I absolutely want to read issue 8. The story had a lot momentum. I loved the art.
I always love seeing Bruce with all the Robins. Dick as the Joker was a cool and fun twist.
Glad to have finally read this!
Glad you enjoyed it JL. It is one of my favorites. The horror aspect is what really made it work for me. Having never believed the court was real and then discovering their secret rooms to how suspenseful and disturbing things were while in the maze, it had me hooked. Have never read All Star Western, will have to check it out. This week we are finishing the second half of the story so if you get around to them swing back by!
Yeah I really like Capullo’s art as well. I felt it was a perfect mix of realistic and a cartoonish look. Not good at describing art but it was suppose to be a compliment.
Yeah I think this story holds up as well. I hadn’t read it since it came out and finished it a few days ago. Even knowing what what going to happen the issue where he discovers the cavity rooms on the 13th floor and the following issue in the maze was still a page turner for me. I love a flawed Batman as well it just makes for a better story. Seeing him competent and kicking butt is fun as well but these kind of stories are more suspenseful for me.
Yeah, Bruce hallucinating his parents blind and decrepit, lost in the maze only to see them explode into violent owls was…oof, that was hard to read.